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About options for controlling the lander, I'm hoping that in the near future, with the surge in brain-computer interface technology (Thanks to Neuralink mostly!) it'll be feasible to control a lander (or many other semi-autonomous systems for that matter) merely by brain signals.

16:44 that felt like a music festival openings sequence

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Hey Dustin, is it possible to take say something similar to bungee cord attached to the top of the lander and apply just enough tension to simulate the different gravity of different planet's? just for the practice landing/flying

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Obviously these are some very smart people working on this project. But the number of checks and the incredible focus on safety above all else is why Elon Musk and SpaceX are eating NASA's lunch. They've just bought a big enough piece of property and are willing to crash some, or even a lot, of prototypes in order to move fast. Witness Starship.

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are u trying to convince me that Neil Armstrong managed to control MANUALLY his landing on the moon by using 60s technology?

Thanks, Destin, for all the great videos you provide. I'm intrigued every time I tune in! Keep up the fantastic work!

Flute anything with enough water and it would be safe....eventually

use the best took for the job... humans hand flying a vehicle is probably a long way down the list of being the best tool for that job.

I think the EGC thruster concept is really cool, but I don't understand how it would work at different attitudes? Wouldn't it's thrust vector introduce sideways drift as the vehicle tilts? Like, if you subtract the EGCT force vector from the gravity vector you should get a "simulated gravity vector". But since the EGCT vector rotates with the vehicle, the simulated gravity vector would appear to not point straight down all the time. Is that dealt with in software? If so, why use a EGCT at all and not just do the entire gravity spoofing in software?

when software creates a catastrophic mistake it's because of a bug when human creates a catastrophic mistake it says "trust me i know what i'm doing"

How is this new? The first lunar landing and soft landing where both by the Soviet Union back in the day.

Why not do a physical lander robot with a remote simulated cockpit so the LLTV dangers are eliminated?

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The legend says in 20 years NASA is still trying to return to the Moon.

So that's why they named Cooper like that in Interstellar, and that's also why the climax of most of it is Humans(Copper) overriding computers(TARS) for the toughest parts and getting computers to act as an appendix of the genius of humans. That was deep. Copper Harper Test. Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@15:09 the old man with the bag of chips...LOL...

Love the use of female pronouns! Creating an environment to encourage more women to join the domain. You're awesome

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It will melt your face

16:45 That thing has a good beat, kind of like a steam engine... which it sort of is :-)

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People wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars on something that could be simulated by a computer program, why don’t design a lunar lander simulator

1960's: Decide to go to the moon and do it in less than 10 years. 2010's-2020's: Decide to return to the moon, and spend 10 years trying to understand how a lander works. And go woke referring to prospective lander pilot as "she." What would Elon Musk say. Speed up, you move too slow, you gotta make it to the show. NASA has become a bloated unaccountable govt bureaucracy. The shot of the fat guy sitting watching while eating junk is emblematic of what NASA has become. When NASA was put in charge of studying surface of Earth, we could see the problem, but nobody objected. What does studying life on Earth have to do with space? Typical fed govt mission creep. Dumber every day? Might make for an interesting episode to address those issues. Yes, I'm trolling you, but for a good reason. Think and share.

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Just use software exclusively, that way it's easier to fake.

1:10 Not a chance, the computer would do the landing

Experience of automation in aviation up to the day says that autopilot is more precise than humans, and (most importantly) is more reliable. The only reason a human is needed in the cockpit is when things don't go as planned - the automatics is helpful only in "standard" situations which it has an algorithm programmed for. So the weakness of automation is only in the lack of versatility. But for a very specific mission like a lunar landing, which doesn't have as great variety of scenarios as daily aviation, a good coverage can be achieved easily. Therefore having computers at control at all times *is* the way forward. Training a human to do this job ("just in case") would be a waste of resource. Human skills would be more valuable making high-level decisions (where to land) while leaving the low-level job (how to land) to the machine. So I'd say don't even bother training humans to fly the lander.

You are so good at asking the right questions. I love you're videos

"It's basically steam" Steampunk gang developing a lunar lander, I'm so proud :')

Destin literally doesn't age! Insane!

It' Ironic that the video said day 252 but the first day is more then 5 years

Dude whats the secret?? You dont get old 😂😂

Hey Dustin a request can you please put a lite tune or background song it feels kind a boring without the background song or tunes ?

it's very safe, not toxic at all... 2 minutes later.. "yeah, it will melt your face off" lol - i do it i get it, but just funny..

is the earth gravity cancelling throttle gimballed to compensate for the rotation of the craft to simulate gravity downwards irrespective of the vehicles rotation?

Like self driving cars, an automated lunar landsr might be favorable but keep the human in the loop!

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That's an inventive use of a couple of TekScope carts at the end - I have one in my office and no, there's not a scope on it anymore ;)

I get your hesitance about stability augmentation, but these systems are highly reliable on aircraft, to the point no pilot wants to turn them off... At least outside of a controlled test. The point is if we want the ability to turn the SAS off, we’re saying we don’t have confidence in it and we need to continue testing and developing the system until we do. At least that’s the perspective of this flight test engineer.

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Well... NASA has contracted this out (The lander), so why are they even bothering to use NASA personnel to do these test, when the contractors will have to do this testing on unique to them hardware? Self guidance is going to need a real landing site simulator that is comparable to the Nevada Lunar Test Site. Placing rocks on the ply-wood sheets aint going to cut it. Is there even hardware to test at this time by anyone yet? the first landing is supposed to be in 2024. They better get cracking.

These landers work so different than quadcopters yet the tests are similiar to how our college multirotor team took each step with our code. It is awesome to see that!

any other climbers watching this? i noticed his t-shirt straight away😂

when those thrusters start testing = Oh DANG... Drum Line is about to get SERIOUS!!!

Destin, I'm going to offer you a third option. Why not use the miniatures and test data to develop a simulator? A full motion simulator would allow for a wider variety of simulations, moon, Mars, etc. that would allows us to many more hours of simulation training for astronauts.

I agree, in Elite Dangerous you have advanced docking computers and super cruise computers that can fly for you, but you'll still need to battle different gravity on different planets and your ship responds far differently in these environments, if you aren't prepared your ship will go smashing into the surface of the planet. It all changes like you said. A highly trained piolet will need to be on that lander to take over if the software fails. Also the way the lander tests its thrusters sounds like its about to drop a sick beat lmao

16:55 ME's got rhythm!

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This is NASA now? Where are the suites and ties and horn rimmed glasses and cigarettes and black coffee? These guys look like the work for twitter.

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You need to go to Biosphere 2. And learn about lunar greenhouses. It's in Arizona.

the space travel hoax continues.. even though NASA admits they cannot fly past low earth orbit. Buzz Aldrin admitted to an 8 year old girl, they never landed on the moon... beat that.

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I think the that the Lunar Lander would be really good the way you explained it. so It should have a sort of Autopilot like in most of the airplanes we fly today where you also can Autoland with them but you also have to have a minimum where you have to disengage the autopilot and hand fly the thing whenever you feel uncomfortable with the Autopilot or in case of an emergency . And this was a great video for someone studying mechanical engineering, aviation aviation enthusiast and space lover. Than you!

that thing produces something like 100kg of hot unreacted oxygen. isn't that, like, crazy dangerous?

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The only place human-controlled systems should be given is in the failure mode where hardware can no longer operate normally and pilots should be trained as such. Humans are too big of a liability, and safety is number one. You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, but let's take risk out with some triple or quadruple modular redundancy, eh?

12:30 So, if we wanted to practice landing on other planets, just adjust that valve?

The Closed Captions need some work...

Hi Destin! I have a question about the EGC thruster... how can it cancel part of the earth's gravity when the lander is going sideways? Does it have thrust vectoring to keep the force in the oposite direction of the gravity pull?

Hydrogen peroxide in the environment means a lot of dumb blonde animals.

Does the egc pivot? I couldn't tell

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the question is economical is it realistic training a pilot to land will it be cheaper to lose the pilot and redo this than paying for years of training, in my personal testing its always better to lose a kerbal and just redo the mission

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Mighty Eagle Program?? Nah ... it's called Kerbal Space Program and probably all of us could land a lunar vehicle by now. ^^

Hey Destin, I know I'm a bit Late for Other Video Topics, but I am curious about Kalman-Filter. Or more precisely how do you measure the position of your Spacecraft if you can't trust your measurement. And how Nasa is solving that Problem with new technology. Could be interesting, I certainly would love to hear about it.

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If the new moon program is anything like the other post shuttle human flight programs, I suspect that if a human has to manually fly it's a bad day. Regardless, they should train to land on the moon however they are going to land on the moon. Back in Apollo that was completely manually. In Artemis, it looks like it's going to be nearly entirely automated.

I don’t know how often you read these comments , but I watch your videos with my boys every time you publish a new one. Out of all the things God has blessed you with, the thing that always impresses me most is your humility. You are very intelligent, you care about your family, and you have an unceasing desire to learn which is wonderful, but your understanding of who you are in the grand scheme of creation is a rare thing to see. Keep it up :)

Why isn't both software and human landing testing done on a simulator? Is it too difficult to modify a flight sim to do this?

The only problem with the argument that the pilot should fly the lander is that it is far too complex and counter intuitive with no room for error. Even Armstrong didn’t fly it, he gave the lander software the target destination and the software did the flying.

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16:45 Looks like me, 2hours of preparation, 2seconds of pleasure 🤦‍♂️

im still waiting for the bass drop.

Dual landing systems are a must. Go in on auto, but be ready to take over.

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Is this guy Young Sheldon the 10 year old genius ( It's a series) XD ? Lol, This is so cool

Superb

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I'm glad you referred to the potential landing pilot as "she" it did not go unnoticed

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Have you ever tried looxid link or nextmind? I saw some vids on youtube but since i k you better than these other youtubers i wonder if you can check them out to see if those are for real :). Tyvm

very cool ..

‘She’ - good job!

It's always an incredible feeling when you meet someone who speaks the same 'language' with you